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Alessio Viti
Forum Admin
Italy
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 Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 17:57:20
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Hi Guys,
I write this topic to know your opinion about .NET technology, because I want to switch to this for future releases of XMM.
XMM is coded in VB6, as you know this language is no longer supported by Microsoft. Even if softwares writed in VB6 will continue to work also in future Windows Releases, it's recommended to "switch" to latest .NET technology, for be sure that XMM will continue to work without problems also in the future years.
What do you think about this? I am making some tests these days to find possible problems in the conversion.
If I will start the conversion, the main window layout can change a bit, but not so much. I want better implement TV Series support, different from movies, and I want build a completely new database structure to solve old XMM know problems.
Please write here your ideas, suggestions and...critics!
Thank you,
Alessio
PS: Do you already has .NET framework in your PCs? have you got any problems? |
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Guido
Starting Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 20:37:21
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Hi Alesio,
If you could make it switch to .NET technology, that would be great.
But I can truely believe that it's hard to re-write the program in .NET.
Unfortunately I don't have any knowledge of .NET, so I won't be able to help out.
Anyways, keep up the good work.
Greetings,
Guido Jurriens
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Xtropy
Starting Member
Canada
46 Posts |
Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 20:50:12
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I would like to see the program future-proofed. I would hate to enter my 500+ movies into another program when I am so happy with it.
I am not a coder so can't help either but thought I would at least post hoping to keep the development going on this kick-ass program...
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Funnybunny
Starting Member
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Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 21:10:18
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I'm happy to hear that you will continue your excellent work by converting to .net
And yes I would very much like a better implement of TV series.
The only other thing that I could think of, just a minor bug, is that the statistic window will not update after I have added a movie. Only if I close the add window en then edit it again it will update the last added statistic. I know its nothing important but if you are changing maybe you can change this too.
I'm not familair with .net code so a cannot help you but if a can support you in any other way just let me know.
Futher more I want to wish you a very happy christmass and of course al the luck for next year.
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Steffi
Starting Member
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Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 21:29:37
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for me, the last release (only a few bugs left open) is enough, satisfaction guaranteed. Personally, I dont need any more changes, except future script corrections and adjusting; the program now does all the stuff, I want, so for me, don't have it changed too much.
If it is required to change to .net, i will have to install .net to all my 6 workstations. But as i suppose, at least, the data format will still be the same, am i right?
Re. xtropy: future proof is also something, I really rely on, because as said, entering over 500 movies into a new engine is not an option.
greets,
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blpp
New Member
59 Posts |
Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 21:30:30
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Dear Alessio,
switching to .NET will be a good decision. I think the development with .NET will be faster. But a must have for the first .NET release is the import of the old database (or convert it somehow). |
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Glenn119
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 21:51:57
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Hi Alesio,
I would also very much like a better implement of TV series as I have several in my database.
To me you have the best movie program available.
Regards,
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cortexwave
Junior Member
144 Posts |
Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 22:00:14
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hi alessio,
youn know ... i dream for years now about a new frontend and grid and and ... ;) i hope you switch to .NET ...
have a nice day ...
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Rockas
Starting Member
Portugal
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Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 22:01:51
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Well... a step into the future is always good :)
I'm trying to jump into Visual Basic .net too... but it is so hard to leave VB6 behind, isn't it? :)
edit: Just an update to my signature :D
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It's a good thing to be against... but what we're for, I'm not so sure.
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powerknully
Starting Member
Germany
8 Posts |
Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 22:39:54
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Hi Guys,
i also think that the version change to .net will be a great step in further compatiblity. And I agree to the fact that addmin my 1.5k movies to another db. Woul take me month. So this is definitely not an option. On the other hand the latest version works perfectly. So from the technical side there is no need to change the version @ all. But as a matter of fact to "stay up to MS date" there might be no other way.
I only hope that the layout doesn't change to much and the features don't shrink to a minumum :)
Greetz
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Alessio Viti
Forum Admin
Italy
9171 Posts |
Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 22:40:07
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Hi Guys,
Thank you for all these posts!
Of course the first thing I will do is the "database and pictures conversion", so the migration to the new XMM will be easy and "completely transparent" to users.
I am happy that you all think that is a good thing. For now VB6 will be supported also in Windows VISTA, but for the future? I want start the conversion as soon as possible, this to have the latest technology available also for next 20 years 
To CortexWave : If you have more ideas (or you just changed your old) please feel free to write more about the frontend.
Thank you! |
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ppicc
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 23:01:02
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Great product Alessio! It is easy to use and does a super job of managing all my movies! The .net conversion is a must I am certain. If you do not continue to upgrade your technology it will become obsolete! I for one would love to see you continue!
Continui il buon lavoro!
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AlCapone
Starting Member
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Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 23:29:15
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using M$'s .NOT will certainly bind your program to M$ platform.
You could always consider something more platfiorm-independent.
I am looking forward to whatever you come up with, and would wish for a complete rewrite of the two dialogs used to import movies.
and use 32bit common dialogs for selecting files.
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TheOne
Starting Member
USA
10 Posts |
Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 23:42:39
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Quote - "I want build a completely new database structure to solve old XMM know problems"
This might be a major problem for me. I have a custom MS Access application that creates an XLobby compatible XML file from the XMM .MDB file. I quess as long it was still a .MDB file, I could redo my app.
If I were unable to work with the XMM database with MS Access, I would really be sad 
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Alessio Viti
Forum Admin
Italy
9171 Posts |
Posted - 13 Dec 2005 : 23:54:03
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Don't worry TheOne, I will continue to use MSAccess, but I will change a bit the tables to have a more quicker DB. For you is OK?
Let me know!
Alessio |
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rafal2005
Starting Member
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 14 Dec 2005 : 00:00:30
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Hi Alessio,
Long term you will have to switch languages that MS supports. The sooner the better.
Your latest version 4.8 is great. Keep them coming.
RSR |
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Ian
Starting Member
Belgium
25 Posts |
Posted - 14 Dec 2005 : 00:03:54
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1) programming language for XMM -> You must do what is needed for the future. Only you can decide which path, but the VB6 is definately out of the question for continuation.
Suggestions: What bothers me and has stopped me from using XMM any more is:
2) Every time there is upgrade it is TOO much work. To set the dbase location & photo location & covers. I prefer that XMM takes the old locations from previous install and does not ask for this information.
3) EVERY time I install a full new version - I have to manually remove almost every script. I do not want IT, FR, DE, SP and so on scripts, thus I remove them. Then I only want a few scripts PLUS the custom freak brother script. Yet XMM insists everytime on installing all these. I prefer that it will ONLY install script if told to do in in a custom install dialog.
4) I REALLY wish to see the web publish feature of XMM improved. That is what attracted me in the first place. I want to have my XMM dbase online. Yet the related pages in XMM all have errors and are not working correctly.
5) I have not come back to the forum for a long time. But I did figure why the XLS export did not work correctly. Because the default CSV export was not correctly formatted for XLS import. It did not have tab seperated values, nor comma seperated values.
6) I do not know if the sort feature is fixed yet. I posted several months ago but have been too busy & too sick to come back for the answer. And since I can not publish on the internet and other problems I have not used XMM for some time now. (Waiting for it to be more ready for my needs). But I do hope that it now really can sort properly.
7) I also hope now that the dbase contains the ID number than I enter for each DVD, which as I posted previously was not supported, in spite of many irrelavent fields being supported.
If these issues are corrected than again I will be using XMM, which I really like, but await it being "polished" a bit more.
I hope you are able to make the move to new programming language without too much difficulty for you and without too many bugs being introduced.
I really like your style and your program, so please take my comments constructively.
best regards
Ian Moran |
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TheOne
Starting Member
USA
10 Posts |
Posted - 14 Dec 2005 : 00:25:28
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Quote - "Don't worry TheOne, I will continue to use MSAccess, but I will change a bit the tables to have a more quicker DB. For you is OK?
Let me know!"
Should not be a problem. Thanks..
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how4444
Starting Member
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Posted - 14 Dec 2005 : 00:41:54
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| At the moment it would be a bad thing for me as installing .net causes my pc to shut down. Althought this was with version 1.1 and I havent tried 2.o yet. |
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reddwarf
Starting Member
Netherlands
5 Posts |
Posted - 14 Dec 2005 : 01:37:33
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Hi Alessio,
Well, for me the biggest wishes would be
1) A change of database from access to SQL based database, or at least have an option to use SQL instead of access. This would allow me to build a website around the database way easier than it is right now. I could have other programs query this database easier than it is right now.
2) Normalize the tables, not *everything* is a string you know 
3) TV Show support, i.e. n episodes span several discs
4) Form designer, let me design my own input/view forms. I don't need all the information that is available in the database and the location of certain fields is not logical and/or practical for my needs. Too much is spread around tabs right now.
5) Allow me to enter more catagories
6) Allow me to specify more files on the form, current limitation of 6 is often not enough
7) Fields validation. BoxID is quite important to me, it should not be allowed to leave this empty. Perhaps a field validation editor where I myself can 'define' validation rules for the fields?
Other than these things it is important to keep an eye on new container/codec formats so that the information within them can be read and modernize/clean up the interface. You'd be amazed what a nice set of XP icons can do in that regard
Cheers,
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Belgarath
Starting Member
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Posted - 14 Dec 2005 : 02:23:08
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I have tried several similar programs over the years, but none was as good as XMM is, I haven't used anything else for 2 years.
In fact, I found XMM so good, I convinced a friend of mine while I was still a beta-tester period for Meedio, to already start write a XMM plugin for Meedio, which is now being used by thousands of Meedio users.
As his plugin is also written in .NET, a conversion to be compatible with the new database structure will be very easy to do.
Belgarath |
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New releases of XMM...VB6 or .NET?